Photo of Pain Lies on the Riverside lyrics, posted by Ed on Facebook Options

[dangum]

Ed posted a pic of some handwritten lyrics to PLOTR. I think it's pretty cool that Ed has kept something from that far back. I'm led to believe that Live have an extensive archival history of material - it would be great to see more of this sort of stuff!

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=101...&type=3&theater

[+Ed+]

Why does everyone have to be so rude here as well? HE may have simply forgotten that he wrote them at the age of 17. I do not remember the faces of my girls when I was that age, like, come on, people. It does not matter THAT much. Cool find, nothing more.

[FishOutaWater]

Why does everyone have to be so rude here as well? HE may have simply forgotten that he wrote them at the age of 17. I do not remember the faces of my girls when I was that age, like, come on, people. It does not matter THAT much. Cool find, nothing more.

I am just saying that the cynic in me doesn't think it was a random "find". I think it is calculated. But I agree with you about the mix up on the date.

[+Ed+]

I am just saying that the cynic in me doesn't think it was a random "find". I think it is calculated. But I agree with you about the mix up on the date.

Fishy, with all due respect to you and all my love towards you as a live-related brother... Do you give a fuck? Seriously?

Why try and look into everything from a negative point of view?

Look. You have been roaming around your basement, when suddenly you find a pic of you and your, say, girlfriend, in your teens.

You look at it and think: wow. I was 17 back then!

You take that pic to your friends and show it to them and say: guys, look, I am 17 here! And they reply: No, hypocrite, you are 27, how could you have forgotten that!


Like, you know, I really do not give a damn. You know my thoughts and feelings about Ed. It can really be this way: he took some piece of paper, wrote it all down yesterday and then take a pic and post it on FB with those comments. SO? So what? If it is so, he is the biggest douchebag in the world. If not, it is only a cool find. I prefer to think about the latter (knowing I shall not trust anybody, especially Ed).

BTW I also had to leave a comment to that pic. Dunno if it had been deleted and if I was banned down there. Lemme check

[FishOutaWater]

Fishy, with all due respect to you and all my love towards you as a live-related brother... Do you give a fuck? Seriously?

Why try and look into everything from a negative point of view?

Look. You have been roaming around your basement, when suddenly you find a pic of you and your, say, girlfriend, in your teens.

You look at it and think: wow. I was 17 back then!

You take that pic to your friends and show it to them and say: guys, look, I am 17 here! And they reply: No, hypocrite, you are 27, how could you have forgotten that!
Like, you know, I really do not give a damn. You know my thoughts and feelings about Ed. It can really be this way: he took some piece of paper, wrote it all down yesterday and then take a pic and post it on FB with those comments. SO? So what? If it is so, he is the biggest douchebag in the world. If not, it is only a cool find. I prefer to think about the latter (knowing I shall not trust anybody, especially Ed).

BTW I also had to leave a comment to that pic. Dunno if it had been deleted and if I was banned down there. Lemme check

Please let me clarify what I am thinking and what I was trying to say, because I don't think that I was being overly negative. In fact, I think I am giving Ed the benefit of the doubt on a lot of points that have been raised in this thread and disagreeing with some of my colleagues here.

I am not saying that Ed manufactured the note this week. That thought never occured to me until it was raised here.

I am not saying that Ed intentionally lied about when he wrote the song. What would he have to gain by lying about that? He could have just said that he wrote it at the same time that he said he wrote on a previous occasion. I think it is more likely that he does not have a crystal clear memory of the exact date when the song was written. Although this song is important to many of us, it is one of many songs that Ed wrote and he did it a long time ago when he was very young. I think people are jumping on this because of the situtation that arose with him claims about when Overcome was written. That seemed like an intentional lie and it didn't involve an event that happened a long time before the lie was told. So I think people are quick to assume that this is a lie too.

I can give Ed the benefit of the doubt that this is a photo of the actual original hand-written lyrics to the song. I think that is a really cool artifact. I also give Ed the benefit of the doubt that he is rusty on the exact date it was written.

All I am saying is that it is a bit dubious that Ed just happened to randomly find that this week and he decided to post a photo of it. I don't think it is a coincidence that he is showing off his Live credentials to the fans during the week after the lawsuit was filed. I think the timing of him presenting this is suspicious. I think he may be presenting this as PR.

What I am saying is that Ed has made me cynical about his actions and that I do not believe the part about how he just found it. Then again - I just re-read the post and he doesn't actually say that he just found it. What he said was "You never know what you'll find going through storage :-)" So he is inferring that he just randomly found it, but he doesn't actually say that. He leads you to believe that is what happened, but he didn't actually say that he just uncovered it from storage. Maybe I should be criticizing him for carefully choosing his words to suggest something, but not technically lie. Perhaps he just stores this piece of paper in staorage and he got it out to take a picture of it and post it on Facebook for PR and say "You never know what you'll find in storage" when he actually knew exactly what he would find in staorage because that's where he STORES IT. Do you see what I mean? Maybe he is playing with words, like he did with the way he presented himself as "of Live".

This post has been edited by FishOutaWater: Jul 25 2012, 9:15 am

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