Anyone know where to find RErecorded Lakini's Juice? Options

[drewgood]

Link to Live's commercial below. Lakini's Juice has obviously been re-recorded and I'm curious to hear the whole thing. Anyone know where to find it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=playe...d&v=k6NgB46AH58

[dangum]

The rerecorded version of Lakini's Juice hasn't been released yet. There are a few concert recordings available on YouTube.

[mfitz804]

Is it me, or do bands usually not spend as much time re-recording their old songs with their new singer?

And no new music in the commercial? Ed is much maligned for trading on the fact that he used to be in Live. Their new ad for the band is filled with music and lyrics written (at least in part) by someone who isn't even in the band anymore.

I get that they used the Shinn versions of the songs, but I don't know, something just rubs me the wrong way about that.

[alexou]

legal issues as simple as that I guess.

[mfitz804]

legal issues as simple as that I guess.

Legal issues how? They could advertise their new album with their new music all day long.

[Live4Life]

I agree. The way they have gone about some things is really strange.

[livesoracle]

Re-records are exclusive to LIVE and even Ed gets a cut, so leave this avenue dead please....

[alexou]

Yeah I just meant that they maybe couldn't use Ed's voice in a commercial, but believe me, they don't need that individual anymore.

[Bremang]

Is it me, or do bands usually not spend as much time re-recording their old songs with their new singer?

I think a big part of the new band is that they want to bring old Live back.

This post has been edited by Bremang: Jun 24 2013, 4:25 pm

[mfitz804]

I think a big part of the new band is that they want to bring old Live back.

I am not sure that's even remotely possible.

Even if that is their intention, I assume the new album is going to contain new music. Why promote your new album with songs written (at least in part) by a dude who isn't in the band and isn't on the album?

And even still, if its ok for Live to "bring back old Live" by singing and re-recording the old songs, why do so many people bag on Ed for continuing to play the old songs which he wrote and sang on originally? I agree that advertising himself as "Ed of Live" makes no sense, but if it makes sense for Live to try to recapture their former glory utilizing the old music, same logic applies to Ed.

If you want to argue that what Live is trying to do is get back the Live they had when Ed was a better performer and songwriter, I again think that's impossible, but its a better argument.

[Bremang]

I am not sure that's even remotely possible.

Even if that is their intention, I assume the new album is going to contain new music. Why promote your new album with songs written (at least in part) by a dude who isn't in the band and isn't on the album?

And even still, if its ok for Live to "bring back old Live" by singing and re-recording the old songs, why do so many people bag on Ed for continuing to play the old songs which he wrote and sang on originally? I agree that advertising himself as "Ed of Live" makes no sense, but if it makes sense for Live to try to recapture their former glory utilizing the old music, same logic applies to Ed.

If you want to argue that what Live is trying to do is get back the Live they had when Ed was a better performer and songwriter, I again think that's impossible, but its a better argument.

What I meant by bring old Live back, is that Live's greatest value and relevance today is essentially their hits from the 90's. They have the task of bringing a new singer on board and keeping Throwing Copper/Secret Samadhi fresh in ppls minds, so it seems like re-recording their hits would serve this purpose.

I couldn't agree more that Ed should be able to play Live songs and people who disapprove are wrong.

[PurdueSteve]

I am not sure that's even remotely possible.

Even if that is their intention, I assume the new album is going to contain new music. Why promote your new album with songs written (at least in part) by a dude who isn't in the band and isn't on the album?

And even still, if its ok for Live to "bring back old Live" by singing and re-recording the old songs, why do so many people bag on Ed for continuing to play the old songs which he wrote and sang on originally? I agree that advertising himself as "Ed of Live" makes no sense, but if it makes sense for Live to try to recapture their former glory utilizing the old music, same logic applies to Ed.

If you want to argue that what Live is trying to do is get back the Live they had when Ed was a better performer and songwriter, I again think that's impossible, but its a better argument.

The critique against Ed for playing the oldies is because he left the band and his reason for doing so, as he claimed, was because he needed to do something "new". Meanwhile CCP, who had no desires to leave the band and weren't seeking something new, are continuing the best they can something they never left. Ed left the band. Walked away. Claimed to start a new chapter in his life, yet played shows that were primarily Live tracks and billed himself of Live. He was being a hypocrite. CCP has not. They've never claimed to want to "move on" from Live like Ed.

[Bremang]

The critique against Ed for playing the oldies is because he left the band and his reason for doing so, as he claimed, was because he needed to do something "new". Meanwhile CCP, who had no desires to leave the band and weren't seeking something new, are continuing the best they can something they never left. Ed left the band. Walked away. Claimed to start a new chapter in his life, yet played shows that were primarily Live tracks and billed himself of Live. He was being a hypocrite. CCP has not. They've never claimed to want to "move on" from Live like Ed.

People were way more critical of his shows sounding bad than of him being hypocritical about being "new"...if someone was bothered by Ed saying he was going to do something new then they haven't been paying attention to anyone in Live for the past 15 years. Everyone in Live has been hyping their new material unrealistically. Live said TDTH, V, BOP, and SFBM were all just a Live record that has new stuff which is their best material to date or brings the band full circle to their Throwing Copper roots. Even today, you see Chads fb messages saying that the studio recordings are incredible. It's just marketing for new albums. What else was Ed supposed to say when Alive came out?

This post has been edited by Bremang: Jun 26 2013, 11:31 pm

[humanclay03]

I'm not choosing sides but clearly no one here has booked bands to play in a venue. Any promoter who wants to ensure that people show up for a show will bill it in the most attractive way possible. In many cases this has absolutely nothing to do with the band (There are a million stories of bands being advertised using old pictures featuring members who are no longer in the band or a radio spot using a former lead singer's vocals while not acknowledging the fact that there is a new singer *not speaking about LIVE specifically*). The local promoter will advertise Ed as "Ed from LIVE" because they are realistic enough to know that ED KOWALCZYK doesn't have the name recognition that say Steven Tyler would have. I would also assume that when booking Ed they must be a discussion ensuring that Ed will be playing some LIVE songs since that would be what the vast majority of the people going to see the show would be interested in hearing. Much in the same way that CCP couldn't go out and perform a LIVE set without playing older music, neither can Ed.