New song?, Take me up to Zion Options

[Costakoui]

Is “Take me up to Zion” played at Tin Angel a new song? If so, any feedback from those who listened to it?

[dangum]

Yes, it's a new song. A video and mp3 of the track can be found in this thread:
http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php...opic=2580&st=30

[thatsme]

I'd say it's an "experimented songwriter" effort. Not good/not bad, just applying the basics.
To me, it lacks of soul.

[Costakoui]

I'd say it's an "experimented songwriter" effort. Not good/not bad, just applying the basics.
To me, it lacks of soul.

Well, I disagree. Applying the basics is what fans have been waiting for since TDTH - it seems that the time has come. It is a Live classic ala T.B.D., the cover Supernatural and perhaps Ghost. It is closer to TBD though. It is Live's best since The Dolphin’s Cry and it is better than Purifier.

[SJN1279]

Well, I disagree. Applying the basics is what fans have been waiting for since TDTH - it seems that the time has come. It is a Live classic ala T.B.D., the cover Supernatural and perhaps Ghost. It is closer to TBD though. It is Live's best since The Dolphin’s Cry and it is better than Purifier.

I wouldn't say all that, but the song has real potential.

[seriakiLLa]

There's quite an engrossing mood to this song.. I like it a lot.

[Badman]

Well, I disagree. Applying the basics is what fans have been waiting for since TDTH - it seems that the time has come. It is a Live classic ala T.B.D., the cover Supernatural and perhaps Ghost. It is closer to TBD though. It is Live's best since The Dolphin’s Cry and it is better than Purifier.

I'd say it is the best since some of the stuff on V but I agree with the rest. Forever took out the love subject, Purifier increased the volume, and Zion gets rid of the falsetto that has plagued Ed for years. This is a logical progression and the original poster should listen to the song... now.

http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b656a0c...91058c84560fe35

This post has been edited by Badman: Apr 24 2009, 7:16 am

[dangum]

That link is broken. Try this one:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=b656a0c...91058c84560fe35

[Pokey]

I think it's definitely a step in the right direction .. lower vocals, better lyrics etc .. theres just no real hook to the song right now, it kinda plods along .. but then again who knows with a full band it may just all come together

[Existentialist]

Well, I disagree. Applying the basics is what fans have been waiting for since TDTH - it seems that the time has come. It is a Live classic ala T.B.D., the cover Supernatural and perhaps Ghost. It is closer to TBD though. It is Live's best since The Dolphin’s Cry and it is better than Purifier.

I agree with this wholeheartedly. At first I was a little indifferent about the song, but it really is great and has loads of potential. The first song I thought of when trying to compare it to an old Live song was TBD.

[Badman]

The first song I thought of when trying to compare it to an old Live song was TBD.

TBD is too fast, bassy, and almost raplike to be like this song. I think it sounds like a sadder mirror song. Don't get me wrong though, I love TBD more than both songs.

EDIT: It sounds like Gas Hed like Luke says. Coincidence they recently used Gas Hed in a setlist? I don't think so.

This post has been edited by Badman: Apr 24 2009, 2:32 pm

[ShadowStormEK]

TBD is too fast, bassy, and almost raplike to be like this song. I think it sounds like a sadder mirror song. Don't get me wrong though, I love TBD more than both songs.

I like this one. It has a sort of resolution to it. Like nothing is going to change his mind about this mood of his. The defeat of his enemies, achieving his "Zion". He is going to get there no matter what.

Would love to hear this in Full Band Mode. I wonder what the rest of the band think of it.

[thatsme]

Applying the basics is what fans have been waiting for since TDTH.

I was talking about general songwriting basics, not +LiVe+ basics.
Believe me, that kind of melody is really easy to catch while playing some random chords on an acoustic guitar. Nothing impressive here.

[Wambangalang]

wicked song, hope the new album has more like it.

[LiveRoCkS77]

I was talking about general songwriting basics, not +LiVe+ basics.
Believe me, that kind of melody is really easy to catch while playing some random chords on an acoustic guitar. Nothing impressive here.

You're an idiot, stfu anfd get lost already.

I honestly don't get where you guys find any similarity to TBD at all, but as much as I hate this bands last 10 years of crap, this has some serious potential. I didn't like neither forever nor purifier, although purifier was ok.

But this song has an ingredient that's been missing for a long time, heart. Just like songs such as Gas Hed, simple but fucking genius almost. You could feel the music. This song is on the right track plain and simple, you can feel the music. It reminds me a little of photograph, remember that song? Sure the chord progression was simple, but the song had guts and made you feel something. At least it did me, even the crappy quality recording gives me goosebumps. No falsetto or fake ass bs, just heart and fucking soul.

If you listen to the chord progression that apparently isn't impressive as idiot boy says here, you find it eerily similar to an IMPRESSIVE little rock tune by a band called Guns and Fucking Roses. The song is called Patience. Now listen to the song again.

Doesn't have to be acoustically genius to be good. Songs like Patience and even Lightning Crashes by this very band ae both simple, but meaningful. The have passion and conviction. This song is by a long shot, ten thousand times better than anything since TDTH. Still wouldn't say it's special, but definately a step in the right direction. Hopefully when it gets to the studio, Ed doesn't girl it up like he has with everything over the past ten years. Be a man and put some fucking balls into it.

This post has been edited by LiveRoCkS77: Apr 24 2009, 1:40 pm