i am no longer a fan of this band Options

[gotigrz]

in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my mind, was one of the catchiest songs with a great back beat that i'd ever heard. my friend told me one night... "the name of that song is "selling the drama" but i don't know by who".... well, that's where it started and this is where it ends.

i've been a huge Live fan for about 12 years now, and i can't hide my feelings about this band any longer. and here's why: I am a Christian. if you are not a Christian then this band and their lyrics may not bother you, but if you are a Christian, then i don't see how they couldn't bother you. i've made excuse after excuse for Live, so that i could bring myself not to think about excatly what Ed is singing about and just enjoy the music. well, 12 years later... i can't do it any longer. i read some peoples thoughts on songs of Live's and i think a lot of people think they are singing about love between a man and a woman,..... and that is NOT what he's doin'.

i can not sit back and let some guy that cusses, drinks and i'm sure he's been drunk, and puff on doobie backstage, and anything else that is not "good"... talk about Jesus the way he does in his songs. esp. Selling the Drama, Operation Spirit, I alone, and i'm sure a bunch more cause that's all he sings about.

if anyone can tell my why i'm looking into his songs the wrong way.... please enlighten me, but if you can't, and i doubt you will...... i'm done w/ Live. and if there are any true Christians reading this... i hope you do the same.

so, before Live can be done with me.... i'm done with them.

[beau99]

From one Christian to another:


You're an idiot.

[FishOutaWater]

in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my mind, was one of the catchiest songs with a great back beat that i'd ever heard. my friend told me one night... "the name of that song is "selling the drama" but i don't know by who".... well, that's where it started and this is where it ends.

i've been a huge Live fan for about 12 years now, and i can't hide my feelings about this band any longer. and here's why: I am a Christian. if you are not a Christian then this band and their lyrics may not bother you, but if you are a Christian, then i don't see how they couldn't bother you. i've made excuse after excuse for Live, so that i could bring myself not to think about excatly what Ed is singing about and just enjoy the music. well, 12 years later... i can't do it any longer. i read some peoples thoughts on songs of Live's and i think a lot of people think they are singing about love between a man and a woman,..... and that is NOT what he's doin'.

i can not sit back and let some guy that cusses, drinks and i'm sure he's been drunk, and puff on doobie backstage, and anything else that is not "good"... talk about Jesus the way he does in his songs. esp. Selling the Drama, Operation Spirit, I alone, and i'm sure a bunch more cause that's all he sings about.

if anyone can tell my why i'm looking into his songs the wrong way.... please enlighten me, but if you can't, and i doubt you will...... i'm done w/ Live. and if there are any true Christians reading this... i hope you do the same.

so, before Live can be done with me.... i'm done with them.

I'm not sure if you are joking or serious with this post because I'm not sure why you would start a thread to say this and I think that the view you expressed is pretty closed-minded. But for what it's worth, I think you are reading Live and Ed accurately and if that bothers you as a Christian, then you should move on. The music you listen to shouldn't bother you. But I disagree with you and I personally think Jesus would be quite happy with Ed's lyrics on many levels.

[beau99]

Yeah. FishOutaWater is correct.


Hell, "Selling the Drama" was lifted straight from the fucking Bible.

And "I Alone" is ABOUT how Jesus loves people.

This post has been edited by beau99: Nov 13 2006, 10:16 am

[Deku]

With respect, it's your problem and not Live's. They always have been and always will be a band that questions many aspects of life and existence, and if you want to take exception to the lyrics or the band themselves then the problem lies with you If I had faith of a religious kind I'm sure I wouldn't let it get in the way of something I enjoyed. And even then, there's always Creed...

[gotigrz]

And "I Alone" is ABOUT how Jesus loves people.

then shouldn't the song be called "He Alone"?

I think you are reading Live and Ed accurately and if that bothers you as a Christian, then you should move on.

I personally think Jesus would be quite happy with Ed's lyrics on many levels.

how are both of those statements possible?

Hell, "Selling the Drama" was lifted straight from the fucking Bible.

really?? show me where or how. or what you mean in general by this statement. to me, this song shows that Ed, much like Bono, really does appreciatte what Jesus did for all mankind, but ed's gonna do the same thing........... only from a chair and he's gonna make money off of it. is this disection of this song wrong? i doubt it... lyrcally, this song is a sequel to "Saviour for a day"

what's really amazing is this weekend i was helping a friend clean out some stuff for a garage sell and we came across "the passion of the Christ", and my wife said you're not gonna sell this are you.... that might be just a tad sac-religious. hence the name "selling the drama".


and beau99, first of all,... i'd NEVER call another Christian brother an idiot. and second, i don't think a Christian would use the adjective that you used to describe the Bible.

"If I had faith of a religious kind I'm sure I wouldn't let it get in the way of something I enjoyed."

well, i can only assume that you're not a religious person from that statement, sorry if i'm wrong. but, only a true Christian, in my opinion, could understand what i'm talking about. and it's not that i was letting my religion get in the way of something i enjoyed......... something i enjoyed was conflicting w/ my religion.

This post has been edited by gotigrz: Nov 13 2006, 10:52 am

[beau99]

No, you're just looking into things way too deep.


And for the record, it's not a sin to swear, the last time I checked.

[lien]

...and another one of these threads...


Can't you all just post this stuff in one and the same thread instead of everyone starting a new one of their own?
It would make it a whole lot easier for me to ignore it...

[gotigrz]

No, you're just looking into things way too deep.
And for the record, it's not a sin to swear, the last time I checked.

isn't that what their music is all about, though. really deep stuff. and what is more deep than someones religious beliefs. and i didn't say it was a sin to swear, but i, a Christian, would never refer to the Bilbe the way you did.

well, i don't mean to start another one of "these threads" but, i was just hoping i could have a civil conversation about the matter w/o people getting all defensive.

[Live inside]

in 1994 i heard a song and the radio that, in my mind, was one of the catchiest songs with a great back beat that i'd ever heard. my friend told me one night... "the name of that song is "selling the drama" but i don't know by who".... well, that's where it started and this is where it ends.

i've been a huge Live fan for about 12 years now, and i can't hide my feelings about this band any longer. and here's why: I am a Christian. if you are not a Christian then this band and their lyrics may not bother you, but if you are a Christian, then i don't see how they couldn't bother you. i've made excuse after excuse for Live, so that i could bring myself not to think about excatly what Ed is singing about and just enjoy the music. well, 12 years later... i can't do it any longer. i read some peoples thoughts on songs of Live's and i think a lot of people think they are singing about love between a man and a woman,..... and that is NOT what he's doin'.

i can not sit back and let some guy that cusses, drinks and i'm sure he's been drunk, and puff on doobie backstage, and anything else that is not "good"... talk about Jesus the way he does in his songs. esp. Selling the Drama, Operation Spirit, I alone, and i'm sure a bunch more cause that's all he sings about.

if anyone can tell my why i'm looking into his songs the wrong way.... please enlighten me, but if you can't, and i doubt you will...... i'm done w/ Live. and if there are any true Christians reading this... i hope you do the same.

so, before Live can be done with me.... i'm done with them.

Grrrrrrr when i read this i am realise i have a language barrier. Everything that`s coming up in my mind, i have to translate.So i take some smily`s to say how i think about this.





and

[gotigrz]

hey, i'm not trying to piss people off. i'd really like to sit down w/ ed and talk about what he's talking about in his songs. cause i could be wrong, but i doubt it. and no one seems to care enough to discuss the matter. just give me the finger and go. and if that's where you stand.... so be it.

[crustyclown80]

And this is why, among other religious sects, Christians scare me (and the rest of society)

[crustyclown80]

...cause i could be wrong, but i doubt it...

If you cannot admit you might possibly be wrong who is going to take you seriously?

Jesus never existed. I might be wrong though.

[Senghe]

If you were a REAL christian, you'd just forgive Ed.

[crustyclown80]

...cause i could be wrong, but i doubt it...

If you cannot admit you might possibly be wrong who is going to take you seriously?

Jesus never existed. I might be wrong though.