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post Sep 13 2006, 8:23 am
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Okay, it is time for us to wake up and realize we are currently in the midst of WWIII. Visionary Hillaire Belloc foretold it in 1938, "...probable that there would be a resurrection of Islam and that our sons or our grandsons would see the renewal of that tremendous struggle between the Christian culture and what has been for more than a thousand years its greatest opponent."

In 1979, due in large part to the Carter Administration, Ayatollah Khomeini returned from exile in France and took power in Iran with 2 objectives. The preamble of the new Iranian Constitution stated that the nation's armed forces "will be responsible not only safeguarding our
borders, but also for accomplishing an ideological mission, that is Jihad for the sake of God, as well as for struggling to open the war for the sovereignty of the Word of God throughout the world." Then only six months later, Khomeini told other governments, "that Islam cannot be defeated. Islam will be victorious in all the countries of the world, and Islam and the teachings of the Koran will prevail over the world." If not a declaration of war, what is?

Thousands then came to Iran for military training, massive financial support, and political assistance.

In 1983 Hezbollah was responsible for truck bombings of the U.S. Embassy in Beirut and a U.S. Marines barracks, killing 241 Marines. In 1984, they bombed a U.S. Embassy annex killing 24 and also kidnapped and killed CIA Station Cheif William Buckley.

In a 1985 declaration Hezbollah proclaimed "We view the Iranian regime as the vanguard and a new nucleus of the leading Islamic State in the world. We abide by orders of one single and wise and just leadership, represented by 'Wali Faqih' and personified by Khomeini."

In 1993 Iran's Military Intelligence organized a meeting of extremist leaders in Tehran, planning global "Islamic revolutionary action." Iranian leadership pledged a half billion dollars for insurgency operations worldwide.

According to the 9/11 Commission, Iran and al Qaeda forged an informal accord in late 1991 or 1992 under which al-Qaeda mujahideen traveled first to Iran and then to Lebanon's Beka'a Valley to receive explosives training. Cooperation between Iran and al Qaeda has continued unabated. They are simply two arms of Iran's world Jihad. Iran has been active in Croatia, training the Bosnian army. In Latin America, Hezbollah is heavily involved in the drug trade in the Tri-border area of Argentina, Brazil and Paraguay and has formed cells in Columbia and Hugo Chavez's Venezuela. Chavez has been a frequent visitor to Tehran. There is not a part of the world where Hezbollah's tentacles haven't spread, including the U.S. The point of all of this is that Iran has not only declared a Jihad - a world war against the West - but has been the principal player behind the scenes in every battle in the war, from Iraq to Lebanon and Gaza. We make a serious mistake when we fail to recognize that the situations in Iraq and Afghanistan and Lebanon are merely part of a worldwide war. We cannot prevail in any of these conflicts as long as we insist on treating them as isolated incidents. We are engaged in combat with a well financed, determined enemy with forces in every corner of the globe that
will not cease their attacks until we drive them off the face of the earth.

In Iraq, a senior member of Muqtada al-Sadr's Iraqi Shi'ite militia, the so-called Mahdi Army, gave the game away when he said the group is forming a squadron of up to 1,500 elite fighters to go to Lebanon and join forces with Hezbollah. The fact is that al-Sadr's Iraqi Shi'ite militia is
supported by Iran and is actively fomenting a civil war between the Shia and the Sunnis that could wreck U.S. hopes for a free and peaceful Iraq.

The war in Lebanon is a conflict between Israel and Iran - Hezbollah is nothing less than Iran's across-the-border armed force. With the West ignoring the nature of the Lebanon struggle with Iran's proxy, Hezbollah acting in Tehran's behalf and under Tehran's orders, is it any wonder that Israel and the rest of the Western world were shocked at the sophistication of Hezbollah's armament paid for and supplied by Tehran. This is no rag-tag bunch of thugs -this is a superbly equipped and well-trained army, and they are everywhere. Israel's attempt to defend itself by attacking the infrastructure of Lebanon and killing Lebanese civilians in the process has been used by Iran's propaganda machine to infuriate much of the Moslem world, adding millions of Moslems to those already seeking the triumph of Islam and enlisting in the war against the West.

Should Israel cease to exist, and were the U.S. to pull out of Iraq in the face of a civil war, the world war would not end. It will go on until either the West defeats it or it defeats the West




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post Sep 13 2006, 9:53 am
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What's your point?


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post Sep 13 2006, 10:38 am
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i think its that we should start buying gas marks and sit in a rocking chair on our porches with fully loaded shotguns


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post Sep 13 2006, 12:28 pm
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post Sep 13 2006, 12:35 pm
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post Sep 13 2006, 5:13 pm
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post Sep 13 2006, 7:54 pm
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QUOTE(Wambangalang @ Sep 13 2006, 11:38 am) *

i think its that we should start buying gas marks and sit in a rocking chair on our porches with fully loaded shotguns


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post Sep 13 2006, 8:04 pm
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more like a scary visual...


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post Sep 13 2006, 8:27 pm
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A woderful peace of propaganda you have. However you forget to ad how america has placed every leader in Iraq For the last 20 year or so and that much of the talibans training came from that great american institution the cia.

But more importantly George Orwell wrote 1984 in 1948 and for told of the three (3) super powers Europe, America and Oceania. the point of these three super powers was to constantly be at war so that the ecconomy never crashed, that the rich would stay rich and those that would appose their reign would be tortured with their deepest fear.

Theres nothing quite like fear to make people consume. Go and ask anyone in a free speach Zone how much crap they buy a week since 11/9/01.


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post Sep 13 2006, 8:55 pm
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Sep 13 2006, 10:53 am) *

What's your point?

i felt the need to post this after reading a post be another US American about how 9/11 might be forgotten quickly and he went on to say that he did not even really know the date of Pearl Harbor.

that is just sad for a US citizen. i hope his comments do not reflect the general attitude of today's youth. if it does, history will surely repeat itself.

again, rocknerd has very little grasp of actual history, at least US history. Study the Great Depression and see how your comments regarding consumerism fit in. but as a true socialist, i doubt you would understand.

propaganda, these facts can be verified through research. as far as helping Iran, yes the US helped Iran considerable prior to 1979 when the Islamic extremists took over.

recognizing and understanding the true enemy helps to overcome fear.

remember, just because you are paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get ya eyebrow.gif


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post Sep 13 2006, 10:06 pm
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Yes all propaganda can be verifyied, the problem is you source is secondary like all propaganda. it is secondary because it is a one side view that you are giving.
Christians need their israli state so that judgement day can come America has always defended israil because of this fact.
Islamic fundimentalists are a plague as much as their christian counter parts.

11/9/01 will never be forgotten because as our rights are stripped away from us our governments will always say "if we dont september 11 will be a reality in our own country". !!/9/01 is the reason the patriot act was passed, why being born in an islamic country will stop you getting a job or even entering a country. 11/9/01 is the reason people fear muslims or people who have dark skin.


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post Sep 14 2006, 7:16 am
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QUOTE(rocknerd @ Sep 13 2006, 11:06 pm) *

Yes all propaganda can be verifyied, the problem is you source is secondary like all propaganda. it is secondary because it is a one side view that you are giving.
Christians need their israli state so that judgement day can come America has always defended israil because of this fact.
Islamic fundimentalists are a plague as much as their christian counter parts.

11/9/01 will never be forgotten because as our rights are stripped away from us our governments will always say "if we dont september 11 will be a reality in our own country". !!/9/01 is the reason the patriot act was passed, why being born in an islamic country will stop you getting a job or even entering a country. 11/9/01 is the reason people fear muslims or people who have dark skin.

you are really confused nod.gif


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post Sep 14 2006, 9:51 am
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QUOTE(rocknerd @ Sep 13 2006, 10:06 pm) *

Christians need their israli state so that judgement day can come America has always defended israil because of this fact.

. 11/9/01 is the reason people fear muslims or people who have dark skin.


please explain....as an american and christian, i find this to be over generalized b.s.

and my fear of people has more to do with their indifferent judgement of others.

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