New "Face Culture" interview with Ed, 5 video's Options

[Nobody Knows]

That would have been interesting, but I think it would have sent Ed over the edge.

And, he would have charged extra for the interview, then.

[OutToDry]

Chad stated they learned through mgt that Ed requested it prior to the show, he said NFW.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Chad stated they learned through mgt that Ed requested it prior to the show, he said NFW.

What are you rebutting exactly? Something Ed said?

[thefunkyredcaboose]

And, he would have charged extra for the interview, then.

A court case bonus! Brilliant!

[OutToDry]

FRC, I was confirming what Bremang said regarding teh 100k bonus.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

FRC, I was confirming what Bremang said regarding teh 100k bonus.

Ah, I missed that.

I'm still trying to figure out how it would have cost Ed 100 grand to lose studio time and to perform in Holland.

[OutToDry]

I think that was another one of Ed's circular speak.

[FishOutaWater]

Does anyone have a link to the Chad Taylor blog post where he spilled all the beans and then deleted the post? I have the FOL email that goes into some of this, but I'd like to read Chad's blag post again. Is that cached somewhere on the internets?

[OutToDry]

it's here

CHAD's BLOG is the the thread title I belieive. (below)

Not the ending I wished for

There have been tons of crazy rumors surrounding the hiatus of LIVE. I have read quite a few and laughed at the extremely creative imaginations of our fans. I’ve been reluctant to fan the flames but the rumors are getting further away from the truth and I will try to set the record straight from my standpoint.

First and foremost, Ed has every legal right to perform the songs he helped birth while being the front man for LIVE. The copyrights for these songs are owned by Chad Gracey, Patrick Dahlheimer, Ed Kowlalczyk and myself. Ed does not control the catalog but rather the bands publishing company, Black Coffee Publishing, Inc. Black Coffee is a majority rule corporation.

Yes, it is true, there was a hidden publishing contract singed in 2005. I personally discovered it via a communication breakdown. Ed is listed as the only signature. When I wrote him to find some resolution to the situation, he failed to respond. I have left these matters to our attorneys who will no doubt file a complaint. Honestly, I don’t care about the financial/legal outcome of these matters, the proof is on the page. Ed was able to stab his three best friends from middle school in the back. This act was far down the line from typical rock star ego. As you can imagine I am deeply hurt and wounded.

In light of these matter, I can’t ever see myself working with Ed, let alone ever being in the same room with him. LIVE was always about the band, when Ed lost sight of that in favor of his own ambitions and goals, our considerable fans base began to sigh a collective yawn.

As band mates and friends and despite the lack of fresh material we continued to support Ed with all of our integrity. The final blow was Ed’s request for a $100,000 “lead singer bonus” to perform as surprise guests at this years Pink Pop Festival. I was informed of his request by our management and politely told them to “fuck off.”

Ed will no longer be the vocalist for the band LIVE. At this point in time, we have made no official plans to replace him but it is clear that he is no friend of mine or the lifelong fans of LIVE.

I have focused my energy on creating new music with The Gracious Few. I look forward to seeing many LIVE fans in the audience at our shows. Patrick, Chad and I have made a pledge to honor our long shared history with the fans of LIVE. You will always be graciously welcome in our house.

Love

Chad Taylor

based on further known facts (the legal complaint) how do people feel now.

This post has been edited by OutToDry: Jul 13 2010, 12:49 pm

[FishOutaWater]

it's here

CHAD's BLOG is the the thread title I belieive. (below)

Not the ending I wished for

There have been tons of crazy rumors surrounding the hiatus of LIVE. I have read quite a few and laughed at the extremely creative imaginations of our fans. I’ve been reluctant to fan the flames but the rumors are getting further away from the truth and I will try to set the record straight from my standpoint.
First and foremost, Ed has every legal right to perform the songs he helped birth while being the front man for LIVE. The copyrights for these songs are owned by Chad Gracey, Patrick Dahlheimer, Ed Kowlalczyk and myself. Ed does not control the catalog but rather the bands publishing company, Black Coffee Publishing, Inc. Black Coffee is a majority rule corporation.
Yes, it is true, there was a hidden publishing contract singed in 2005. I personally discovered it via a communication breakdown. Ed is listed as the only signature. When I wrote him to find some resolution to the situation, he failed to respond. I have left these matters to our attorneys who will no doubt file a complaint. Honestly, I don’t care about the financial/legal outcome of these matters, the proof is on the page. Ed was able to stab his three best friends from middle school in the back. This act was far down the line from typical rock star ego. As you can imagine I am deeply hurt and wounded.
In light of these matter, I can’t ever see myself working with Ed, let alone ever being in the same room with him. LIVE was always about the band, when Ed lost sight of that in favor of his own ambitions and goals, our considerable fans base began to sigh a collective yawn.
As band mates and friends and despite the lack of fresh material we continued to support Ed with all of our integrity. The final blow was Ed’s request for a $100,000 “lead singer bonus” to perform as surprise guests at this years Pink Pop Festival. I was informed of his request by our management and politely told them to “fuck off.”
Ed will no longer be the vocalist for the band LIVE. At this point in time, we have made no official plans to replace him but it is clear that he is no friend of mine or the lifelong fans of LIVE.
I have focused my energy on creating new music with The Gracious Few. I look forward to seeing many LIVE fans in the audience at our shows. Patrick, Chad and I have made a pledge to honor our long shared history with the fans of LIVE. You will always be graciously welcome in our house.
Love
Chad Taylor

Thanks.

So CC&P didn't know about the demand before it was made, but their management informed them of it after Ed made the demand, and before the festival. Sounds like communications had seriously broken down by then. If Ed called the guys and said "hey, I'd love to play this event, but I invested $100,000 in studio time that I will need to cancel. If I could get that expense covered so that I am not out of pocket, then I'd love to play this festival with you guys. Do you mind if I see if I can get made whole on that?" then maybe there wouldn't have been an issue. Of course, who knows if that was really the case at the time. But from the band's perspective, Ed's tumidity of requesting this "bonus", and the other guys hearing about it when their management told them that the demand was made, is the issue.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

Thanks.

So CC&P didn't know about the demand before it was made, but their management informed them of it after Ed made the demand, and before the festival. Sounds like communications had seriously broken down by then. If Ed called the guys and said "hey, I'd love to play this event, but I invested $100,000 in studio time that I will need to cancel. If I could get that expense covered so that I am not out of pocket, then I'd love to play this festival with you guys. Do you mind if I see if I can get made whole on that?" then maybe there wouldn't have been an issue. Of course, who knows if that was really the case at the time. But from the band's perspective, Ed's tumidity of requesting this "bonus", and the other guys hearing about it when their management told them that the demand was made, is the issue.

I would be absolutely flabbergasted if there was actually studio time worth $100,000 involved.

[OutToDry]

so it comes down to 'what studio time is Ed referring to?? Live or Ed Solo.....I say nuts....BS

[Nobody Knows]

Well, studio time can cost a lot....

Special coffee from the Columbian mountains, a masseur for Ed, a meal prepared by monks in Tibet and then flown over to the United States, extra-special herbs from all over the world for Ed's throat...

Many necessities, I can see where the 100K comes from.

[thefunkyredcaboose]

so it comes down to 'what studio time is Ed referring to?? Live or Ed Solo.....I say nuts....BS

I don't think it matters really, no way there was studio time worth that much.

[OutToDry]

Agreed