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post Jul 13 2010, 1:55 am
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Jul 12 2010, 6:11 pm) *


Ed makes it seem like HE was the one who wanted to part ways when he implies that the band was angry about a solo project. It is clear they got shafted by Ed's shady behind-the-back business dealings and they couldn't stand to be near him anymore.

This interview confirms what most of us have been saying about Ed the last few months. I'm sorry, but anyone who says otherwise is just being a total fanboy... I think we all know who that is laugh.gif


I don't think he implies that he wanted to breakup for good rather he said he wanted to be refreshed. Though he probably really wanted more money for the songs. But if by parting ways you mean going solo, then maybe its true that he wanted to "part ways". He did want the credit for the music and risked going solo years ago. He was also ready to go solo before the breakup. Not sure what you mean by part ways.
However, its not clear yet that Ed really shafted the guys, but it definitely seems like thats what the guys think Ed did. Yea I'm kind of a fanboy haha. But I don't support the new Ed music.



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post Jul 13 2010, 2:18 am
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post Jul 13 2010, 2:29 am
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I don't think Ed handled the questions too badly, but he did look mighty uncomfortable with it.

And I think Live getting back together would be a step backwards at this time. TGF and Ed's solo careers need a little time on their own. We don't really need Live right now.


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post Jul 13 2010, 4:15 am
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OK so I've just read this whole thread and haven't watched the videos yet but I'm looking forward to it now, about to watch them then post the rest..


Jesus fucking christ! hahaha I was just saying in the other thread the other day how I wished an interviewer would actually push him for info and this guy delivers! I love how Ed starts out all " lol.gif happy.gif thumbsup.gif kicking.gif " and then it just turns for him ... I honestly never thought I'd enjoy watching the man I idolised for so long squirm like this, but as uncomfortable as it was, I enjoyed it.

This guy is just ... fucking hell Ed. So he admitted that the 100k lead singer bonus is true, he then basically says "I only wanted it to pay for other things that will make me money!" ... the guy is a snake. If he's never done anything dishonest then you'd think he'd have no problem laying out what actually happend to clear his name, his deflection and body language and words are just that of a guilty man.

The whole thing about him wanting to focus on the creativity thing is just bullshit ... if the guy wrote the majority of the music on the last 3 albums (and the evidence of this is on the fucking album covers themselves) then for a lack of creativity he only has himself to blame. Also, if you think what you're doing is getting stale, why break away and make more music that is trying to sound like what you were just making that you thought was stale? Even Nick keeps saying that his solo album has "classic Live vibe" ... I thought that was what was getting stale? If he made an album with more stuff that sounded like Dirty Water, Lotus Flower then I couldn't begrudge these comments as much because he'd actually be doing something different to Live. Right now he just sounds like he's fronting a bad Live cover band who are making their own songs to try and imitate Live of the 2000's. His argument is complete bullshit.

Talking about new partners and new inspiration etc ... that would all be well and good if Live had still been writing together for the past few years and the stuff still got stale .. but the fact is HE wrote most of it the past few years and he even admitted that in this interview so having new people to write with is a bullshit excuse because he hadn't seriously written with the other guys since 1999 for a full album. His arguments have about as many holes in it as the bible he follows.

His comments about him going solo not being a popular decision I'm sure is true in a way. I'm also sure that it could easily be said that him going solo WITHIN Live (ie taking all the writing credits) was not a popular decision, and I'm sure it wasn't.

wow .. really this just blew me away even more than before, the man just lost my respect at a whole new level again .. and that pisses me off, I'm sad about it, I don't want to dislike Ed but he just comes across now as such an unlikeable lying git. Even if Live were to get back together now, I think I'd find it quite hard to follow them again. The only salvation I have now with Ed is that I know he changed .. when he wrote the amazing things he did with the band back in the 90s I believe he was truely there and in the moment .. so listening to those songs now I know I can still enjoy them because he was a different person. Almost any time he opens his mouth now I cant take anything he says or sings honestly.

When he talks now I just can't believe it's the same guy who wrote TDAOC or Freaks, it's not about moving on with life and becoming happier, the content of the songs can change to happier subjects, but the creative lyrics and interesting lyrics that can actually create discussion amoungst people as to the exact meanings are gone .. now it's just plain as day and dull, "this song is about A, this song is about B" there's no mystery, no intrigue .. it's kind of like his career has gone in reverse, his writing on Death of a Dictionary was more interesting than now

"I thought I knew exactly what scared me
And I would never have to run again
So I went to sleep and began dreaming
Of perfect lives and paradise
Woke up and started screaming"

That line right there is better than anything written on Alive.

And with that I'm just about done, RIP my ties with Ed K, I think from now on I am just going to outright support him like Sakhmet2 suggested I do in other threads just for the hell of it .. Nick dude, I got your back in most things Eddie K for awhile just because if there's one thing Ed's taught me to do, it's sell out!


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post Jul 13 2010, 4:33 am
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I don't want to dislike Ed but he just comes across now as such an unlikeable lying git


One of the thoughts that suits my state of mind perfectly


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post Jul 13 2010, 4:45 am
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written by Nick, July 13, 2010
I'm so glad he went solo. He didn't need his lil bandmates anymore. Ed is a total genius and a God!

LOL!


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QUOTE(Nobody Knows @ Jul 13 2010, 1:45 pm) *

written by Nick, July 13, 2010
I'm so glad he went solo. He didn't need his lil bandmates anymore. Ed is a total genius and a God!

LOL!

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written by Aitkens, July 13, 2010
I agree with you Liverocks. The more I listen to it, the more I adore it!!!! Ed rocks!!!!

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I admit, this album is growing on me now.....


How many times has Nick registered there?

God damn, what a joke!


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post Jul 13 2010, 5:02 am
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Sick joke by someone.


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post Jul 13 2010, 5:40 am
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Jul 13 2010, 2:55 am) *

I don't think he implies that he wanted to breakup for good rather he said he wanted to be refreshed. Though he probably really wanted more money for the songs. But if by parting ways you mean going solo, then maybe its true that he wanted to "part ways". He did want the credit for the music and risked going solo years ago. He was also ready to go solo before the breakup. Not sure what you mean by part ways.
However, its not clear yet that Ed really shafted the guys, but it definitely seems like thats what the guys think Ed did. Yea I'm kind of a fanboy haha. But I don't support the new Ed music.


Bremang......you drive me insane. Why do you try to justify everything that Ed does? Are you trying to convince yourself? ....your not convincing anyone else that is a so-called Ed hater. Just saying....

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post Jul 13 2010, 7:11 am
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Ed says he started writing songs for his SOLO album beginning of last year. That would be beginning 2009?

That's a good 6 months before the break-up.... and then Nick wonders why TGF is taking so long to give out the release date of the album and stuff.....


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post Jul 13 2010, 8:24 am
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I've been thinking more about this. Right from the beginning, the interview catches Ed in a web of lies about something that he doesn't even need to lie about. But his farsical salemanship just can't help itself. I'm paraphrasing from memory because I can't watch this interview again from work this morning. But the interviewer says - how did you pick this spot for the photo on the cover of the album? Ed says, it was just the place where we did the make-up and we were like, hey this spot right here is great. Then Ed goes on to say that they tried a whole bunch of places to try the photo shoot and he liked this one the best. And the interviewer gets a little confused and tries to call Ed on the two inconsistent stories that he just gave about the location. He basically says - which one is it? Did you do your make-up there and decide that's the place or did you try a buynch of different places? He seemed to be implying - if you tried a bunch of different places, how does your story about how you were doing your make-up for the shoot here and just decided to do it right there add up?

That's obviously not the exact quote, but that is how my paraphrased recollection of the exchange went. It's like Ed is making up stories as he goes along, just to tell a good story with the hopes that it will appeal to people who will then go buy his album.

He admitted the $100,000 lead singer bonus. And let's not forget the issue here. Chad Taylor's issue was not that the bonus was illegal. It's that the other three guys didn't know about it and they found out about it later. They were a band. The other 3 guys prbably would have liked to play the show and earn a paycheck. Their lead singer did something their lead singer had never done before. And he did it behind their back. He demanded a lead singer bonus of $100,000, and they didn't get to play the show. And exactly what studio expense budget was he covering at that time? What was he recording? I'd like to know or I am still smelling BS.


Ed just comes off as such a huckster in this interview. I am no expert facial and body language reading expert, but he looks like he is totally full of sh*t in this interview. The part that made me laugh is that the camera person started zooming in tight on Ed's face before the interviewer even got into the challenging questions about the break-up. It's like they were going in for the kill and wanted to get every facial expression on a full-screen shot. This interview crew came ready for business.

I just keep getting the impression that every time a new album comes out, Ed spins the promotion of it as a new crative energy, recapturing the old Throwing Copper energy. "It's really rockin. This is it this time. This time it's really going to be different. This time you are really going to love it. Just buy this album. You'll see. I've really got it back now this time. This one will appeal to real rockers, adult comtemporary fans, Christian rock fans, girls, boys, children, men women. United States fans, the Dutch and everyone in between. Just look at my shiny head and glaring eyes and falsified grin and you can see it in my face. I'm Ed Kowalczyk. Just buy my record."

I'm not trying to just kill Ed here. But I am just picking up on an insincerity here.


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post Jul 13 2010, 8:34 am
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ooh that was painful . i ket grabbin my dick while watching it like when you see someone get kicicked in the balls you instinctively grab your crotch as if you feel the pain, thats how much i felt for him. fuck off with the gay comebacks.

i still like lightning crashes


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post Jul 13 2010, 8:36 am
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The interview is loaded with insincerity. Interviewer did what we were hoping for in the other thread for sure. He must read here.


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