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post Jul 15 2010, 9:47 am
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Spot on Fish...............I also hope we get a true change in Ed and reconciliation with the band and more LIVE albums in the future!

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post Jul 15 2010, 10:00 am
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Fish is like the grand wizard of wisdom thumbsup.gif


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post Jul 15 2010, 12:59 pm
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Fishy Fishy.

Ed worshiper. Just like me. My gal is laughing at me every now and then saying: Give up on Ed. He turned out to be a moron.

I still want to believe he will change.

You are such a nice guy, Fish. Thank you very much


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post Jul 15 2010, 1:08 pm
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It would be rainbows and unicorns if Live got back together only if they actually recorded good music.

To most of us, BoP and SFBM were very.. lacking. If they get back together just to write more albums like that, why bother?


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Better bother with albums like that together than with albums like ALive separately


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post Jul 15 2010, 1:12 pm
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I'd rather have Ed making albums like Alive and TGF make their music, than for Live to reunite and make more SFBMish stuff. No contest.


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post Jul 15 2010, 1:54 pm
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QUOTE(SinfulEyes @ Jul 15 2010, 2:08 pm) *

It would be rainbows and unicorns if Live got back together only if they actually recorded good music.

To most of us, BoP and SFBM were very.. lacking. If they get back together just to write more albums like that, why bother?


dont understand why people are so down on BoP...songs like she, lighthouse, like i do, rivertown were very very good songs and even the "pop" sounds had a nice feel to them; thought the best songs on BoP were on the same level as prior cd's

BoP in general is light years better than SFBM


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post Jul 15 2010, 2:01 pm
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 15 2010, 10:42 am) *

Whether it be when he wrote Overcome or why he chose that spot by the tree to shoot the photo for the cover of Alive, the strange thing is that Ed demonstrates a Sarah Palin-like propensity to make stuff up as he goes along for the apparent purpose of spinning an interesting story that might sell product. It goes to character.

That's an unfortunate choice of comparison since Palin is obviously an idiot and Ed is a relatively smart guy.
But almost all politicians and many other public figures do this. Including religious figures. Doesn't mean it's right, just that it's not rare.

QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 15 2010, 10:42 am) *

It's all about character and the little tidbits and signs that maybe the person inside the shiny bald veneer is not the loving, compassionate, selfless person that matches the words that come out of his mouth.

No one is quite what they seem. No one. It's one of the things that makes me cynical.

QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Jul 15 2010, 10:42 am) *

There is nothing I would like more than for Ed to completely do a 180 degree turn, reunite with Chad, Chad and Pat with friendship and forgiveness, become someone I can admire again, and return to creating music like the old Live. I'm holding out hope.
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I would like a reunion.
I also live in hope that Ed will become an atheist with a philosophical bent and give us something completely new.

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post Jul 15 2010, 2:20 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jul 15 2010, 9:40 am) *

Yeah, he just couldn't remember that they had performed that song live 3 years prior, and even demo'd it for TDTH.

How could someone forget that? While he didn't try to say he wrote it after 9/11, he was definitely trying to place it closer to the event (presumably for marketing purposes).



I feel like we are kinda splitting hairs here...if you take it word for word out of context, you could make the case that he is lying.

I never saw this interview, but I do remember the other one where he mentioned writing it before 9/11.

There were dramatic changes from the oldest version that we heard to the version that made the album...maybe this is what he was referring to...

who knows...maybe he was intentionally lying, but I doubt it...didn't V get released on september 18th...its seems implausible that he would try to convince anyone that the song could be written after 9/11 but make an album released a week later

Of all the things in the Live universe, and of all the things that Ed is accused of doing wrong, this is probably the least significant thing to even talk about...I'm not trying to defend Ed, I just don't think its a very important issue.


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post Jul 15 2010, 2:25 pm
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QUOTE(shave98765 @ Jul 15 2010, 3:20 pm) *

I feel like we are kinda splitting hairs here...if you take it word for word out of context, you could make the case that he is lying.

I never saw this interview, but I do remember the other one where he mentioned writing it before 9/11.

There were dramatic changes from the oldest version that we heard to the version that made the album...maybe this is what he was referring to...

who knows...maybe he was intentionally lying, but I doubt it...didn't V get released on september 18th...its seems implausible that he would try to convince anyone that the song could be written after 9/11 but make an album released a week later

Of all the things in the Live universe, and of all the things that Ed is accused of doing wrong, this is probably the least significant thing to even talk about...I'm not trying to defend Ed, I just don't think its a very important issue.


I'm not arguing that he wrote it after 9/11 though, I don't recall anyone trying to make that argument around the time.

I think its significant because, at least for me, this was when Ed started to go off course.


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post Jul 15 2010, 3:01 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ Jul 15 2010, 3:25 pm) *

I'm not arguing that he wrote it after 9/11 though, I don't recall anyone trying to make that argument around the time.

I think its significant because, at least for me, this was when Ed started to go off course.


I think Ed headed off course when he started hanging out with Fred Durst and Dennis Rodman.


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QUOTE(Merica @ Jul 15 2010, 2:12 pm) *

I'd rather have Ed making albums like Alive and TGF make their music, than for Live to reunite and make more SFBMish stuff. No contest.

Agreed


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post Jul 15 2010, 3:11 pm
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No, it's not that.....it's the fact that he wanted to act like them instead acting true to himself. His ego shot up tenforth after moving to Hollywood.


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post Jul 15 2010, 3:26 pm
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QUOTE(Merica @ Jul 16 2010, 4:12 am) *

I'd rather have Ed making albums like Alive and TGF make their music, than for Live to reunite and make more SFBMish stuff. No contest.


I agree with this, I am enjoying TGF already now so much more than the later years of Live. If Live gets back together, they need to write together, end of story.


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QUOTE(TheBeacon @ Jul 15 2010, 4:01 pm) *

I think Ed headed off course when he started hanging out with Fred Durst and Dennis Rodman.

Agreed

QUOTE(OutToDry @ Jul 15 2010, 4:11 pm) *

No, it's not that.....it's the fact that he wanted to act like them instead acting true to himself. His ego shot up tenforth after moving to Hollywood.

I think you are saying essentially the same thing as TheBeacon.

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