Replacing the lead singer of your multi-platinum group for the last 20 years after only being hiatus for 2 years time is a drastic move. Heck, TGF only released their debut album 9 months ago. It seems that they have given up on TGF being their main focus pretty quickly or rather they are just following Kevin Martin's lead.

Fans will expect to see Ed when LIVE comes to town. CCP are really underestimating that aspect of their new venture. They are also hurting chances of a legit LIVE reunion down the line by pulling this move, which to me wreaks of desperation.

They can make good music without using the LIVE name. Why even bother upsetting a portion of LIVE's fanbase by pulling the trigger on this move. Most of the CCP fans on this board would be bitching to high heaven if Ed pulled the same move, so stop being hippocrites.

As if criticism wouldn't come to Live+Ed?

This post has been edited by MrSheptical: Jul 16 2011, 7:05 pm

Not to nearly the same level. Crowds would be way larger for the shows, and their would be genuine excitement for a much larger portion of the fanbase.

With Ed, you still get all the LIVE classics in concert being sung by the man who wrote the lyrics. With a new singer you basically have a cover artist performing Ed's material.

Jesus christ you are so fixated on what TGF are doing. How is it possible you can't wrap your head around the fact people can have multiple projects on the go? There are 5 members to that band, they have to work things out evenly between them, it is NOT a solo project like Ed's where everything revolves around him and everyone else is expendable. TGF and Live will come and go as they see fit, I don't understand what part of that you can't understand or why it even bothers you when you aren't even a fan of either?

Fans will not be expecting to see Ed if they replace him and make it clear there is a new singer, we don't even know who that will be, if anyone, so nothing has been said as of yet.

CCP Should be able to do what ever the hell they want with the name Live since they own it, forget the god damn sales. This is the same attitude you had towards setlists when Live was touring, you had no problems with them playing the same "hits" every night over and over because its what "the fans want". You didn't care for anything to be changed up because its not what people might expect. Jesus you are absolutely petrified of change it seems.
Let it evolve, if you don't like it then fuck off, no one is forcing you to listen to it. It just sounds like sour grapes from you because Ed isn't involved.

And with Ed you basically have a band performing covers of Live songs. But again, that doesn't matter to you because you can't appreciate the music, you just see the front man and that's it.

Oh and you get "the classics", thank god for that, the same songs over and over again. Now there is quality entertainment! $$

If they didn't care about sales and concert attendance, they wouldn't be ressurrecting the name LIVE in an incomplete form.

No, only your fucked up backwards sales obsessed mind thinks this way. Live is their life, it is who they have been for the majority of their life, its what they know, its who they are, they're resurrecting it because they love Live. They're resurrecting it because they have an idea of what they want to do with it carried forward. You're the only person who thinks this way, you and Ed that is. I wouldn't expect you to be able to understand the fact that money isn't the only thing that motivates people.

I'm hesitant about it too, but I couldn't give a fuck about sales or concert attendance numbers .. I just want to know what it will sounds like, and I already know that 3/4 of it will sound amazing because I'm a fan of CCP which you are not, so I'm not going to make a call on the rest until I've heard it. But you've already decided you don't like it because Ed isn't involved, once again, you're not a fan of Live.

This post has been edited by Pokey: Jul 16 2011, 7:18 pm

Live have always gotten criticism. In fact, they've never been the media darlings that other popular bands from the time like Smashing Pumpkins, Nirvana, or Pearl Jam were. Or don't you remember Live being called REM/U2-lite?



That setup seems to be working fairly well for William Duvall and AIC.

This post has been edited by MrSheptical: Jul 16 2011, 7:18 pm

Alice in Chains original frontman is dead. Totally different scenario.

I beg to differ. Ed is dead in the eyes of many Live fans including myself. He is the sole reason why Live's music went to shit.

The Ed that I was a fan of died just over 10 years ago. I've moved on.

You're the hypocrite. You have an unrealistic standard by which you hold everyone but Ed and yourself to. You choose to completely ignore the entirety of what led Live to where they are today, instead picking a few rare instances where C,C,P shared some raw emotion (something you seem incapable of comprehending). Your tactics wreak of desperation. I sense that you are worried that Live just may succeed without Ed and that would blow up everything you have hung your hat on.

youre been given the factual reasons on all the matters regarding the hiatus and breakup and the continuance of Live sans Ed, why do you keep circling back to the same arguements? Multiple folks here have spelled it out.......hence you continue to harp on TGF, Ed's importance, money grab, attendance, hypocracy, what have you...........all of these discussion topics is due to the sole fact that Ed fucked over his lifelong friends........can you see this? Is it clear? It's 10 second Tom ad nauseum.

The mere fact that Nick has no problem with Ed singing Live songs with an extremely sub par backing band, but has a problem with CCP playing Live songs with a yet to even be determined singer just speaks for itself.
I think it all comes back to his "no noticeable drop offs" comment regarding Ed's band, this is why he is not a real fan of LIVE and only Ed, the fact he can't recognize CCP's involvement or talent beyond what he says in his own words were "great chemistry on stage", visually is the only way he can appreciate them because he just has no idea about how to appreciate music beyond a front man.
I think all arguing with him is just mute because he clearly has issues which allow him to see past this.

New LIVE will fail like The Gracious Few before them. That is all.