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QUOTE(gerrycan70 @ Dec 17 2022, 11:48 pm) *

I've always loved The Offspring, but I was very disappointed with how they left Pete out in the cold. They got a very handy replacement in Josh Freese, a prolific drummer.


Not to get political, but a lot of that kind of stuff has been happening, especially in the last few years. I don't remember the exact story, but one of the members of Mumford & Sons got booted because he expressed a contrary opinion about something or whatever. It's getting a little too fucking 1984-ish lately, imo... but I'll leave it at that.

I'm a little familiar with Freese. I know he played on Chris Cornell's first solo album. That was a great album.

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Spotify is the grinch that screws the artist over big time. The kids of today are immediately drawn to that platform.


Well, it's Spotify but they're really just doing the bidding of the music business I suspect. Piracy just moved from the control of The Pirate Bay and unwashed goobers in their basements into the corporate offices of Sony and Warner Music Group. Spotify is basically the 2022 version of Napster, but it's OK since the big mega labels have approved them and because they have an actual economic model.

People who tout blockchain technology say that artists could finally get the kind of transparency they've always been lacking in the industry, not to mention getting proper and real-time value (royalties, etc) for their work. I hope they're right, but there's a lot of scammy shit going on in that realm right now.

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As side note I recently did my own playlist off Youtube. Being an 80's kid I still live in that bubble, can't stand the modern-day music out there.

Here's my playlist for anyone whose looking to go back in time yay.gif music.gif victory.gif

Gerry Playlist 80's/90's


That's a hell of a playlist. I will have to steal it. You need a little Witchita Lineman or Gentle On My Mind to go with Rhinestone Cowboy though...

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post Dec 19 2022, 11:33 pm
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QUOTE(Bob @ Dec 18 2022, 1:56 am) *

A fun side note: Rick Beato interviewed Billy Corgan a couple days ago and it's a fantastic 90 minute interview if you're looking for a cool musical journey and some awesome behind the scenes stories.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAfkxHcqWKI

Apologies for the mostly non-Live content in this post.


That has to be the best interview with BC I've ever seen.

Rick Beato's YouTube channel is a fucking treasure trove.


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post Dec 20 2022, 10:23 am
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QUOTE(JonSnow @ Dec 19 2022, 11:30 pm) *

Not to get political, but a lot of that kind of stuff has been happening, especially in the last few years. I don't remember the exact story, but one of the members of Mumford & Sons got booted because he expressed a contrary opinion about something or whatever. It's getting a little too fucking 1984-ish lately, imo... but I'll leave it at that.


Not to get off topic for too long, but Winston Marshall wasn't kicked out of the band and he didn't leave because of one opinion. He left the band because his personal views, which were the extreme opposite of the other members, were becoming the focus of the coverage of the band. Instead of talking about the music, people were talking about his political views. He himself wrote:

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"Emotions were high. Despite pressure to nix me they invited me to continue with the band. That took courage, particularly in the age of so called “cancel culture”... For me to speak about what I’ve learnt to be such a controversial issue will inevitably bring my bandmates more trouble. My love, loyalty and accountability to them cannot permit that. I could remain and continue to self-censor but it will erode my sense of integrity. Gnaw my conscience. I’ve already felt that beginning. The only way forward for me is to leave the band. I hope in distancing myself from them I am able to speak my mind without them suffering the consequences. I leave with love in my heart and I wish those three boys nothing but the best. I have no doubt that their stars will shine long into the future. I will continue my work with Hong Kong Link Up and I look forward to new creative projects as well as speaking and writing on a variety of issues, challenging as they may be.


So it was a choice he made while taking into consideration how his personal advocacy reflected on his band and his bandmates. He wanted to be able to speak freely and he didn't want his POV to be the focus on everything that was written about the band.

Anyway, just wanted to clarify that a bit because everyone was in a tough situation and I think he did the right thing for himself and for the band he loved.


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QUOTE(JonSnow @ Dec 19 2022, 11:33 pm) *

That has to be the best interview with BC I've ever seen.

Rick Beato's YouTube channel is a fucking treasure trove.


Seconded. I guess on some Reddit guitar subreddits it's cool to hate on the guy, but I love his channel.


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