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post Aug 4 2019, 1:53 pm
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QUOTE(Bremang @ Aug 4 2019, 1:23 pm) *

I wouldn't be surprised if the setlist was cut short due Ed's voice being especially worn out that night. I also think Live are promoting their tour only. They probably get paid in concert ticket sales, and they probably hardly make money with the TC anniversary. So they just go by the metrics and play the fan favorite concert songs, because the casual alt rock fan is their bread and butter. They have a new merch clothing line and a new limited beer release. Things seem to be done right from a promotional angle if the goal is to make money.


I get most of what you are saying. However, I will never wrap my head around why they won’t add/or promote the new release Hold Me Up on the setlist. First leg of the tour, okay. But the second leg of the tour, after the release of TC25 and it as a single... super dumb move to not add it in. You mention they go by the metrics, and play fan favorite concert songs. Well, that’s true in part. They sorta have to. But a casual fan wouldn’t know The Distance (and they played it at the show I saw last week). Take The Rolling Stones cover out, and perform Hold Me Up & tout it as your new single. Worst thing can happen is it causes people to want to buy it! A casual fan actually asked me last week why the two covers, as he was wanting to hear PLOTR. shrug.gif


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post Aug 4 2019, 2:23 pm
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QUOTE(Merica @ Aug 4 2019, 4:18 am) *

Lols, there are plenty of sycophants in the groups, yeah.

Some good people as well, mind. Back when I was on there my complaining was never met with total opposition.


The only group I read (not a member, just read) is the FoL one. Remember early on in the tour, when there was complaining there about the setlist, Chad Gracey came outta the woodwork to oppose. IMO, makes people in that group who aren’t as comfortable with being outspoken think twice next time. Sorta sucks.


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I enjoyed the livestream, except that we missed OLP's set. I was happier with Live's performance than I thought I'd be, but that is also because I had such low expectations. I didn't mind the covers, but like many have said, why not play Hold Me Up in the set? Why not promote a single? It's clear at this point we should give Live a postage stamp, because they are mailing it in, whether it's new music, their live show, or just about anything else. I would have been happier with the reissues (which have been weak with bonus material, however Woodstock '94 is great) and they kept doing their own thing, whether that's with Chris Shinn or TGF. They are in it for a paycheck, nothing more, and if they said anything to the contrary, they'd be lying.


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Also, since we only had a half song of OLP's to compare.....how about that difference in mixes? Bush sounded like an actual band (granted the kick drum was way too loud), while Ed was turned way up and the other guys were turned way down. Ed hasn't changed, he just knows where he can maximize his income.


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QUOTE(mattdm11 @ Aug 4 2019, 4:46 pm) *

Also, since we only had a half song of OLP's to compare.....how about that difference in mixes? Bush sounded like an actual band (granted the kick drum was way too loud), while Ed was turned way up and the other guys were turned way down. Ed hasn't changed, he just knows where he can maximize his income.


Loud music is to cover Gavin's lack of vocal power.



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QUOTE(SJN1279 @ Aug 4 2019, 5:03 pm) *

Loud music is to cover Gavin's lack of vocal power.

Gavin sounded fine.


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Loud music is to cover Gavin's lack of vocal power.


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QUOTE(Voodoo Lady @ Aug 4 2019, 2:53 pm) *


I get most of what you are saying. However, I will never wrap my head around why they won't add/or promote the new release Hold Me Up on the setlist. First leg of the tour, okay. But the second leg of the tour, after the release of TC25 and it as a single... super dumb move to not add it in. You mention they go by the metrics, and play fan favorite concert songs. Well, that's true in part. They sorta have to. But a casual fan wouldn't know The Distance (and they played it at the show I saw last week). Take The Rolling Stones cover out, and perform Hold Me Up & tout it as your new single. Worst thing can happen is it causes people to want to buy it! A casual fan actually asked me last week why the two covers, as he was wanting to hear PLOTR. shrug.gif


The distance is probably a million times more well known than Hold Me Up, and so are the covers. Not to mention this is Zak Loy's band and the distance is his time to do a 5 minute solo in the middle.


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