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post Nov 11 2012, 10:07 am
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No, not this thread per se.
The new live track thread for example.


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post Nov 11 2012, 10:08 am
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Nov 11 2012, 10:06 am) *

No, they shouldn't come here. This site allowed a thread promoting Nick's agenda to drum up support for a Live reunion with Ed, while CS is currently the singer. If this was a Live oriented site it would truly recognize and accept the band in its current format. I asked that the thread be deleted on this basis and was denied. As long as this site allows bs like that it is anti-Live and I don't blame anyone that supports Live for not visiting here especially CCCP.

Yes, they should come here, imo.

and I completely disagree that that is what this board is being used for.

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post Nov 11 2012, 10:11 am
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QUOTE(Lerxst @ Nov 11 2012, 10:04 am) *

Glad all have assholes... er.. I mean opinions smile.gif

I don't know, I see your point, like why can't they just ignore certain things and show up to a place that may obviously still have fans who root for them.

I liken it to they maybe have personalities that say you know what? I'm gonna go anywhere and everywhere I please, but if I show up at this club and/or restaurant and my crazy ex-wife (or insert girlfriend, crazy boss, someone I hate, etc..) happens to be at that establishment and I walk and and I see them, I'm walking out. And I CERTAINLY won't ever come back to that place knowing that said crazy ex-wife (or insert GF, crazy boss, someone I hate, etc..) is a frequent visitor and a regular of said establishment, well I'm going to another club, diner, restaurant, bookstore, etc.. down the road. Does that make me a petty person? Not at all, people have different tolerances and opinions, and maybe that' just the code they live by, it's what makes them who they are. I know plenty of people who if we go to a club and they just hate techno music and the moment they walk in and it's DOOF DOOF DOOF DOOF, they are walking straight out and going to another club that has music they prefer. Is it petty? Nah.. Same stance with trolls.

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I understand you analogies, JL... but it doesn't change my opinion.


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post Nov 11 2012, 10:12 am
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QUOTE(Opinechik @ Nov 11 2012, 10:11 am) *

I understand you analogies, JL... but it doesn't change my opinion.


No problem.

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post Nov 11 2012, 10:16 am
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QUOTE(themaestro @ Nov 11 2012, 10:06 am) *

This site allowed a thread promoting Nick's agenda to drum up support for a Live reunion with Ed, while CS is currently the singer.


I must have missed the boat on that one. Before my time on here I guess. That's too bad because nothing spells DISRESPECT for the band and CCCP than endorsing an agenda like that! And doing that while CS was the current lead singer? I think I'll just call that how I see it - FUCKING BULLSHIT!

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post Nov 11 2012, 10:18 am
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Yeah, I missed it too....and misread maestro's post actually.

Which thread Maestro?
I know which one, forget it.

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QUOTE(Lerxst @ Nov 11 2012, 10:16 am) *

I must have missed the boat on that one. Before my time on here I guess. That's too bad because nothing spells DISRESPECT for the band and CCCP than endorsing an agenda like that! And doing that while CS was the current lead singer? I think I'll just call that how I see it - FUCKING BULLSHIT!

-Jimmy

Right, but it was one pissant, not the whole board.


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post Nov 11 2012, 10:25 am
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QUOTE(Opinechik @ Nov 12 2012, 2:03 am) *

Seriuosly Pokey....and just why does every thread turn into a fight...riddle me that, huh?
Can't blame SJN, he isn't even here.



"Because he isn't even here", because he plants the seeds and then runs off (not to mention he himself keeps trying to get into WD, for god knows what reason), he has been a part of plenty to get the blame ... like I said before, a burglar who robs a house every week for 30 weeks and then has 3 weeks off from robbing houses does not suddenly become innocent, plus he has his helpers here. And yeah people on the other side are to blame too for fighting back.

BUT, that wasn't the point of my post, i said regardless of where the blame lies, CCCP obviously can't be bothered with the fighting, and can you blame them for that?
WD is a perfect example of how things work without people like SJN and L4L; a community that doesn't descend into fights, and CCCP obviously just feel more comfortable in that environment just like they tried it here for awhile; its also not all people sucking at the CCCP teat there, there were just as many people who were a bit iffy on this latest clip over there who stated so publicly as there is here.


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post Nov 11 2012, 10:25 am
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Why the hell would they come here? This place openly and knowingly hosts anti-Live campaigns. By doing so it supports that bs. I would never frequent a business, message board or whatever that blatantly supported anything against me or anything I felt strongly about. It's not even about Nick. It's about the fact his shenanigans have been allowed. Would you support an independent PETA board that allowed posts about violence against cats? I doubt it. PETA wouldn't support it. Just like Live should not support the anti-live bs that is posted here.


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QUOTE(themaestro @ Nov 11 2012, 10:06 am) *

This site allowed a thread promoting Nick's agenda to drum up support for a Live reunion with Ed, while CS is currently the singer.


Dear Dan,
Some questions for you:

Did you really do this?
And actually DENIED a request that it be taken down?
And you did this fully knowing that CS was the current band singer?
You actually did this knowing full well the band lineup was CCCP?

I mean that is a new low for you, old friend! Nothing spells out disrespect and a classless on your part by actually endorsing that agenda WHILE CS was the current band singer. Total lack of respect for the guys. I'd love to hear your answers on this and why you felt it was okay to disrespect Chris and the band like that? That's just rude Dan.

-Jimmy


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post Nov 11 2012, 10:26 am
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QUOTE(Pokey @ Nov 11 2012, 10:25 am) *

"Because he isn't even here", because he plants the seeds and then runs off (not to mention he himself keeps trying to get into WD, for god knows what reason), he has been a part of plenty to get the blame ... like I said before, a burglar who robs a house every week for 30 weeks and then has 3 weeks off from robbing houses does not suddenly become innocent, plus he has his helpers here. And yeah people on the other side are to blame too for fighting back.

BUT, that wasn't the point of my post, i said regardless of where the blame lies, CCCP obviously can't be bothered with the fighting, and can you blame them for that?
WD is a perfect example of how things work without people like SJN and L4L; a community that doesn't descend into fights, and CCCP obviously just feel more comfortable in that environment just like they tried it here for awhile; its also not all people sucking at the CCCP teat there, there were just as many people who were a bit iffy on this latest clip over there who stated so publicly as there is here.

I can blame them in the sense that they don't need to get drawn into that shit, yes.



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post Nov 11 2012, 10:29 am
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QUOTE(Opinechik @ Nov 11 2012, 10:24 am) *

Right, but it was one pissant, not the whole board.


You're absolutely right, but that is just part of the problem I see on this board. It's not just the pissant that you're talking about but the fact that it is a protected species around here. I blame management as the other part of the problem, cuz certainly it's not part of the solution now is it? To allow said pissant to run around freely knocking over everyone's glass of water in the restaurant like a spoiled child is not a place I'd want to visit to eat dinner - when the management can't even control it's own pissant child? Yeah.. props to them for not visiting. It has nothing to do with the rest of the people and patrons in the restaurant, but it also it has EVERYTHING to do with the pissant little brat running around the place with full protection of ownership and management.

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post Nov 11 2012, 10:33 am
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Here's the thread. I asked that he close it and remove it. He denied and said it would stay.

http://www.fansoflive.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=4760


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QUOTE(Opinechik @ Nov 12 2012, 2:24 am) *

Right, but it was one pissant, not the whole board.



maybe it is one or two pissants but its obviously enough to throw the board into a shit storm of a place that they just don't want to be a part of. its not that hard to comprehend tongue.gif

Like I said, they tried posting here and it didnt work for them, hell Nick was arguing directly with KM about how KM viewed TGF; pretty sure KM knows more about that than Nick does. They gave up on this place long before WD came along, if WD never came along i doubt they would post anywhere. If this place had actually done something to stop the descent into madness they may have come back .. as it turns out we have what we have and thats where we are now.


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QUOTE(Opinechik @ Nov 12 2012, 2:26 am) *

I can blame them in the sense that they don't need to get drawn into that shit, yes.


But maybe they just don't like being around it, after all these arguments are ABOUT them, they're people, they probably feel pretty uncomfortable with it and just don't want to have it in their lives.


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