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post May 16 2012, 11:54 pm
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If you believe Ed is being marketed incorrectly (or deceptively) on his tour dates, please discuss it here. There's no need to go over the same ground in each tour date thread. Any future discussion on this topic will be moved here...

Is Ed really 'moving on' when 80% of his setlist is Live material?
Should Ed be referred to as "formerly of Live" in concert promotion?
Is Ed using his connection to Live too much?
Is Ed or the record label responsible for the marketing?
Do you want to right this wrong by informing the venue, radio station or fans? Post details here.


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post May 17 2012, 1:45 pm
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QUOTE(thefunkyredcaboose @ May 17 2012, 2:18 pm) *

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post May 17 2012, 2:22 pm
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post May 17 2012, 2:46 pm
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QUOTE(possum @ May 17 2012, 11:27 am) *

Funny thing is that it will be a Live show. Advertised as a Live show. Nothing misleading or dishonest. Kind of a big fact you are overlooking. Ed of Live is a lie - no way around it.

Pretty funny (or sad) that this now has it's own thread.




This infers present tense.....let's rince and repeat the spin cycle again with little nicky banana.gif



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post May 17 2012, 2:48 pm
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ May 17 2012, 11:46 am) *


I doubt that anyone who goes to a Live concert with Chris Shinn will feel suckered because I am betting that Live will proudly announce and promote Chris Shinn as the new lead singer of Live. The promotional posters will include his photo. Their new album will include him. They will press release it. They will NOT try to hide from it and try to dupe concert-goers into buying tickets for a show at which they believe Ed will be singing.

Also, you are comparing apples to oranges. You need to be smart enough to understand the distinction. The issue here is that Ed is trading on Live's name and misleading people into thinking that he is still the bona fide lead singer of Live - which he isn't. He is using Live - which is owned by CCP - to sell his tickets. And he is not legally able to do that. One cannot legally commericalize the brand and the image and likeness of a known entity if they do not have the legal right or license to do it. The same goes with the royalties on the sale of recordings of performances of Live songs that Ed sells on his website.

Nick - I have got to ask you a question that I want you to answer. If Ed recorded performances of Live songs and sold them and did not pay royalties to the company that owns the rights to those songs which is owned 25% each by Ed, Chad, Chad, and Patrick, then do you agree that is wrong? Do you agree that is just as wrong as if Blake Shelton recorded Lightening Crashes and sold it on iTunes and made millions of dollars and never paid Black Coffee one cent for the royalties. Or if the song I Alone was used in a movie and included on the soundtrack of that move, and the studio never paid Black Coffee one cent for the rights? If you agree that this was wrong, then how can you support Ed at all despite that agregious act?




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post May 17 2012, 3:55 pm
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Nick - I have got to ask you a question that I want you to answer. If Ed recorded performances of Live songs and sold them and did not pay royalties to the company that owns the rights to those songs which is owned 25% each by Ed, Chad, Chad, and Patrick, then do you agree that is wrong? Do you agree that is just as wrong as if Blake Shelton recorded Lightening Crashes and sold it on iTunes and made millions of dollars and never paid Black Coffee one cent for the royalties. Or if the song I Alone was used in a movie and included on the soundtrack of that move, and the studio never paid Black Coffee one cent for the rights? If you agree that this was wrong, then how can you support Ed at all despite that agregious act?


Still waiting for an answer to this....


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post May 17 2012, 4:07 pm
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C,C,C,P and M
will sell out every fucking venue they did in the later years
W/O
Ed K
and all the REAL fans will be there
while mostly freaks and fairies will be at the other show lol.gif
I for one never need to hear LAAA DAAA DAAA DAAA again ever
I want the REAL LIVE
not some fake fucking band I saw recently
give me the rockers CCCP and of course MEMPHIS!!!!!!!!!

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post May 17 2012, 4:25 pm
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QUOTE(zmanpga @ May 17 2012, 4:07 pm) *

C,C,C,P and M
will sell out every fucking venue they did in the later years
W/O
Ed K
and all the REAL fans will be there
while mostly freaks and fairies will be at the other show lol.gif
I for one never need to hear LAAA DAAA DAAA DAAA again ever
I want the REAL LIVE
not some fake fucking band I saw recently
give me the rockers CCCP and of course MEMPHIS!!!!!!!!!


Glad you brought up Memphis. What a dynamic addition to Live, for sure.


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post May 17 2012, 9:13 pm
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this little 'oh it's an honest mistake' was corrected at the source by the Big Stick!!!

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THis is the word - Deceptive to a T


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post May 18 2012, 7:54 am
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QUOTE(OutToDry @ May 17 2012, 10:13 pm) *

this little 'oh it's an honest mistake' was corrected at the source by the Big Stick!!!

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post May 18 2012, 8:32 am
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Yes its real...go back to the Canada EK show thread.


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post May 18 2012, 8:41 am
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Yep. Ed the Deceiver. A good name for his next Christian album.


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post May 18 2012, 8:48 am
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Of course he and his backing band could be collectively known as: "Eddie K and The Deceivers."


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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ May 18 2012, 9:48 am) *

Of course he and his backing band could be collectively known as: "Eddie K and The Deceivers."

I would buy his next album if this was the name of his band.


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post May 18 2012, 7:08 pm
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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ May 18 2012, 11:48 pm) *

Of course he and his backing band could be collectively known as: "Eddie K and The Deceivers."


Nah def still "Eddie K and the Noticable Drop Offs", as bad as they are musically they're not the deceives here.


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post May 18 2012, 7:45 pm
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QUOTE(Pokey @ May 18 2012, 8:08 pm) *

Nah def still "Eddie K and the Noticable Drop Offs", as bad as they are musically they're not the deceives here.

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