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FishOutaWater
post Apr 23 2012, 8:50 am
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QUOTE(dancing queen @ Apr 22 2012, 5:36 pm) *

I'm not usually running to defend Ed (its shameful to me he's calling his tour I Alone) but I'm willing to bet its not on Ed's end that he's being billed as 'of Live.' I have a friend who does PR for a venue in Baltimore and he said they often get no info from artists and have to make stuff up themselves to do billing. its not on CNN or anything that Ed's not a part of Live anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if venues just don't know.
on the other hand, Ed's management could certainly give a proper heads up...



If it is not Ed doing it, then how does a venue in the Philippines have the exact same poster, with font, verbage and photo, as venues in the US? Amazing coincidence? Or information provided by Ed's people?

http://www.mukamo.com/vertical-horizon-liv...ilippines-2012/


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post Apr 23 2012, 9:04 am
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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Apr 23 2012, 9:50 am) *

If it is not Ed doing it, then how does a venue in the Philippines have the exact same poster, with font, verbage and photo, as venues in the US? Amazing coincidence? Or information provided by Ed's people?

http://www.mukamo.com/vertical-horizon-liv...ilippines-2012/


Has to come from some sort of press kit, or either the venue found that poster and edited it.


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QUOTE(+Ed+ @ Apr 23 2012, 8:41 am) *

I would love to see him billed as EdKo formerly of Iron Maiden at some point


I'd love to see him billed as some guy formerly known as Ed Kowalczyk of Live.


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post Apr 23 2012, 9:29 am
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From what I know of Ed, he is as much business man as musician and it is my personal belief that he has his finger on the pulse of how his brand and image and marketing are being presented to the public. Venue after venue, his "I Alone" tour where he plays mostly Live songs and a few off of his "ALiVE" album are being billed as "Live's Ed Kowalczyk" using the font and red color that is unique to the likeness and image of Live. All the while, he does interviews where he carefully avoids all discussion of the break-up and his former band where he pretends to not have heard of TGF and he glosses over all the acusations made against him with an uncomfortable smile. He went out on his solo tour before the hiatus and then started his own website where he sold recordings and videos of him performing Live songs without paying publishing and royalties to Black Coffee - the company that owns the rights to those songs.

I think Ed knows exactly how he is being presented to the public, and he is probably personally responsible for it. He strikes me as the kind of person who has his finger on the pulse of his marketing.

And I recently re-read his Answer to the complaint filed against him in New York, and I think that he believes that he is solely responsible for the success of Live, as he thinks that he was the "driving force" and almost excludive song-writer and musican for the band, and that he graciously shared the revenue with CCP for many years as a gratuitous and friendly gesture, but not because they deserved it or earned it or were responsible for the success of Live. So I think that he believes that he has every right to use and exploit Live for his gain now, because I think that he believes that it is rightfully his and he deserves it. I imagine that he has moments in private that would make Mel Gibson blush when he thinks about CCP going off with another lead singer as the band Live without him and the idea of him not being thought of as Live must drive him nuts. Oh well. Too bad, you ungrateful, egotistical SOB.

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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Apr 23 2012, 9:29 am) *

From what I know of Ed, he is as much business man as musician and it is my personal belief that he has his finger on the pulse of how his brand and image and marketing are being presented to the public. Venue after venue, his "I Alone" tour where he plays mostly Live songs and a few off of his "ALiVE" album are being billed as "Live's Ed Kowalczyk" using the font and red color that is unique to the likeness and image of Live. All the while, he does interviews where he carefully avoids all discussion of the break-up and his former band where he pretends to not have heard of TGF and he glosses over all the acusations made against him with an uncomfortable smile. He went out on his solo tour before the hiatus and then started his own website where he sold recordings and videos of him performing Live songs without paying publishing and royalties to Black Coffee - the company that owns the rights to those songs.

I think Ed knows exactly how he is being presented to the public, and he is probably personally responsible for it. He strikes me as the kind of person who has his finger on the pulse of his marketing.

And I recently re-read his Answer to the complaint filed against him in New York, and I think that he believes that he is solely responsible for the success of Live, as he thinks that he was the "driving force" and almost excludive song-writer and musican for the band, and that he graciously shared the revenue with CCP for many years as a gratuitous and friendly gesture, but not because they deserved it or earned it or were responsible for the success of Live. So I think that he believes that he has every right to use and exploit Live for his gain now, because I think that he believes that it is rightfully his and he deserves it. I imagine that he has moments in private that would make Mel Gibson blush when he thinks about CCP going off with another lead singer as the band live without him and the idea of not being Live must drive him nuts. Oh well. Too bad, you ungrateful, egotistical SOB.


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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Apr 23 2012, 10:29 am) *

From what I know of Ed, he is as much business man as musician and it is my personal belief that he has his finger on the pulse of how his brand and image and marketing are being presented to the public. Venue after venue, his "I Alone" tour where he plays mostly Live songs and a few off of his "ALiVE" album are being billed as "Live's Ed Kowalczyk" using the font and red color that is unique to the likeness and image of Live. All the while, he does interviews where he carefully avoids all discussion of the break-up and his former band where he pretends to not have heard of TGF and he glosses over all the acusations made against him with an uncomfortable smile. He went out on his solo tour before the hiatus and then started his own website where he sold recordings and videos of him performing Live songs without paying publishing and royalties to Black Coffee - the company that owns the rights to those songs.

I think Ed knows exactly how he is being presented to the public, and he is probably personally responsible for it. He strikes me as the kind of person who has his finger on the pulse of his marketing.

And I recently re-read his Answer to the complaint filed against him in New York, and I think that he believes that he is solely responsible for the success of Live, as he thinks that he was the "driving force" and almost excludive song-writer and musican for the band, and that he graciously shared the revenue with CCP for many years as a gratuitous and friendly gesture, but not because they deserved it or earned it or were responsible for the success of Live. So I think that he believes that he has every right to use and exploit Live for his gain now, because I think that he believes that it is rightfully his and he deserves it. I imagine that he has moments in private that would make Mel Gibson blush when he thinks about CCP going off with another lead singer as the band Live without him and the idea of him not being thought of as Live must drive him nuts. Oh well. Too bad, you ungrateful, egotistical SOB.



totally lost all respect for my one time hero, I will not support him again unless he comes clean with his former friends and bandmates and accepts his role in the OLD band crashing, good by Mr Ed


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I've gone through the proper channels with this whole situation. According to the radio programming director in Charlotte, NC who are still running the commercials as of early this morning the ball is in the court of the artist and the venue. He assured me he has made contact with the venue, which I already had done as well. As OTD said from what I know of the situation I'm positive that all of this is just fuel for further litigation. Fish is dead on with his sentiments as well, how can one possibly think EK has know idea how he is being marketed? I'm sorry, but a man with such an ego as his would not let a matter such as this slip through without his thumb print on it.


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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ Apr 23 2012, 11:23 am) *

I've gone through the proper channels with this whole situation. According to the radio programming director in Charlotte, NC who are still running the commercials as of early this morning the ball is in the court of the artist and the venue. He assured me he has made contact with the venue, which I already had done as well. As OTD said from what I know of the situation I'm positive that all of this is just fuel for further litigation. Fish is dead on with his sentiments as well, how can one possibly think EK has know idea how he is being marketed? I'm sorry, but a man with such an ego as his would not let a matter such as this slip through without his thumb print on it.


I'm sure the program direction loves hearing from you about this nonsense.


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It's not nonsense. What is nonsense is the continued lack of accountability of venues and booking agents being too feeble and booking it correctly. It's all in the name of preserving and squeezing the dollar.


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Actually he was quite pleased and we are working together on something else you arrogant ass. I worked in radio for many years and have instant credibility with my background in journalism and Public Relations. Unlike some two-bit, "Street-Team" leader, demigod worshipping, man-crushing, individual holding to the very last fibers of your idols career.


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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ Apr 23 2012, 12:46 pm) *

Actually he was quite pleased and we are working together on something else you arrogant ass. I worked in radio for many years and have instant credibility with my background in journalism and Public Relations. Unlike some two-bit, "Street-Team" leader, demigod worshipping, man-crushing, individual holding to the very last fibers of your idols career.

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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ Apr 24 2012, 2:46 am) *

Actually he was quite pleased and we are working together on something else you arrogant ass. I worked in radio for many years and have instant credibility with my background in journalism and Public Relations. Unlike some two-bit, "Street-Team" leader, demigod worshipping, man-crushing, individual holding to the very last fibers of your idols career.


Yeah but you see Nick has decided in his own head that the conversation went like this:

Good_Pain: Hello radio man I'd like t...

Radio dude: FUCK YOU, YOU PRICK, DON'T CALL ME!

And unfortunately, once the Sacco brain decides on a particular scenario that he picks to best suit him, he will not be moved on the subject and refuses to entertain the the notion that it could be anything different. After all, he knows best about situations that he has absolutely no part in at all!


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QUOTE(Good_Pain @ Apr 23 2012, 12:46 pm) *
Actually he was quite pleased and we are working together on something else you arrogant ass. I worked in radio for many years and have instant credibility with my background in journalism and Public Relations. Unlike some two-bit, "Street-Team" leader, demigod worshipping, man-crushing, individual holding to the very last fibers of your idols career.




time to place this phony internet board savant in his deserved place.



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QUOTE(FishOutaWater @ Apr 23 2012, 10:29 am) *
From what I know of Ed, he is as much business man as musician and it is my personal belief that he has his finger on the pulse of how his brand and image and marketing are being presented to the public. Venue after venue, his "I Alone" tour where he plays mostly Live songs and a few off of his "ALiVE" album are being billed as "Live's Ed Kowalczyk" using the font and red color that is unique to the likeness and image of Live. All the while, he does interviews where he carefully avoids all discussion of the break-up and his former band where he pretends to not have heard of TGF and he glosses over all the acusations made against him with an uncomfortable smile. He went out on his solo tour before the hiatus and then started his own website where he sold recordings and videos of him performing Live songs without paying publishing and royalties to Black Coffee - the company that owns the rights to those songs.

I think Ed knows exactly how he is being presented to the public, and he is probably personally responsible for it. He strikes me as the kind of person who has his finger on the pulse of his marketing.

And I recently re-read his Answer to the complaint filed against him in New York, and I think that he believes that he is solely responsible for the success of Live, as he thinks that he was the "driving force" and almost excludive song-writer and musican for the band, and that he graciously shared the revenue with CCP for many years as a gratuitous and friendly gesture, but not because they deserved it or earned it or were responsible for the success of Live. So I think that he believes that he has every right to use and exploit Live for his gain now, because I think that he believes that it is rightfully his and he deserves it. I imagine that he has moments in private that would make Mel Gibson blush when he thinks about CCP going off with another lead singer as the band Live without him and the idea of him not being thought of as Live must drive him nuts. Oh well. Too bad, you ungrateful, egotistical SOB.




Who do you think was behind placing his daughters images on the older coffee bags? Nice and to the point Fish.



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